yes we do live in a "depressingly male dominated society" but i will not be voting for THIS woman... she's stagnation incarnate... sisyphean... she flaunts male bravado while she herself holds contempt for men... i don't mind that mind you it's just i will not support such snobbery

obama is vigorous and visionary and forward thinking... and i adore that in human beings

Frank Rich on why a Hillary Nomination could lead to a Republican win.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opinion/27rich.html?hp

I loved Clinton during those Whitehouse years and the work that the Democrats did at that time. This is a much different time in history and there is so much wrong with our world that it will take an altogether different perspective to save us. Hilary lacks the freshness and the true inclusiveness needed to return us to the great country that we once were. Obama is the way of the future if we want to survive. His sense of fairness and wholeness for us as a people is far more reaching that the Clintons.

There should be no reason why a woman could not be the president but it should be the right woman.
Also if Hilary is the democratic candidate I believe that the republicans will smear her in a way that they cannot publicly smear Obama. It is still an old boys club in Washington despite the great inroads that women politicians have gained in the last two decades. The world we live in today must not wait any longer to see true and lasting peace among the different races and cultures. The future must be about brotherhood and unity and eqaulity between ALL people or we are doomed to repeat the same long suffering mistakes of our long history. That is something that Barack Obama has the potential to do.

Ted Kennedy Endorses Barak Obama

Kennedy is a long time supporter and friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton. He had planned on remaining neutral but was so disgusted with the racial polarization of the Clinton campaign that he called Bill Clinton to tell him to stop. Apparently he was more angry at the end of the conversation than at the beginning.

Kennedy also believes that Hillary has so polarized the party that she cannot win in November.

Ted Kennedy is the leader of the liberal wing of the party. He stood up and called the war in Iraq a fraud while Hillary Clinton was voting for it and encouraging the greatest foreign policy disaster in our lifetimes

Tom Hayden (60's radical anti-war leader) endorses Obama

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080211/hayden

While I'm kind of mystified by the whole Kennedy clan thing, the American Royalty bent, etc. -even though their pappy started out as nothing but a rum runner, I'm not feeling great about Ted's granstanding, and with Caroline by his side no less. I know they are both just acting as Democrats mostly.

But for people who are supposed to be Democrats they sure are behaving like Republicans.

Flash:

Giuliani to pull out of race tomorrow after weak showing in Florida.

Ding, dong, the witch is dead! Hallelujah -

NIGHTMARE AVERTED
High Fives All the way Around

How are the Kennedy's acting like Republicans? Was Ted acting like a Republican when he spoke out and voted against the Iraq war while a majority of his colleagues (including Hillary) voted for it? He spoke about economic justice and principle and is supporting a man who also had the foresight to oppose this war. What about that is Republican?

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Chi Chi -

Whatever else happens this year it's delicious to see the end of Giuliani's career. He's completely discredited. He deserved nothing less than the total humiliation he is experiencing right now.

BRAVO!

Lily, yes the Kennedy's champion many progressive causes - I am not picking fault with their political views on issu4es at all.

All I mean by Kennedy acting like a Republican by his endorsement is that to give the endorsement he presented himself in public as a patriarchal party leader accompanied by the status symbol of his niece -they stood as the ultrapriviledged patricians which is a pose perfected by the Reagans- not exactly the image of representatives of a populist-leaning party.

So, to my mind, presenting oneself as the supremely priviledged patriarch, a kind of titular party head, bestowing the grace of his favor upon someone, a personal favor that by the imputed exalted status of his ranking in the social and political order should carry massive gravitas and sway all lookers-on, is not exactly a very democratic pose to strike.

That's all.

Now Rudiani ranks up there with Little Bush and his whole Idiocracy.

seven,

Yah. Now I get what you meant

I've been jumping and wringing my hands in GLEE all day reading about Rudy's rude awakening. I feel as tickled as a Munchkin just after the house landed. If nothing else positive comes of this election, at least we know she's been exposed as the oily stage villian she is. They say she did it all for Judith, who really wanted to be First Lady. HA!

The only political office she's suited to is Staten Island Borough President.

Chi Chi, your points about Hillary are well-taken. In fact I remember having almost this same conversation with you years ago at Magique. I've said from the beginning, and still maintain, that whoever the Democratic nominee is will get my vote, including her. And if she gets elected I'll be comfortable with it because she'll probably do a decent job. I just want a chance to vote for a good alternative, and for the first time in years we have one in Obama (until earlier today we had two, but alas Edwards is gone).

To me primaries and general elections are two very different political terrains. Primaries are about principles, romance and emotion. General elections are about pragmatism, survival and reason. In all likelihood Hillary will still cinch the nomination, as research indicates she has been far more extensive in securing Latino voters and locking down key voting blocks here in the tri-state area. But for now I'm enjoying the wave of the moment and want to act on possibility and inspiration.

Watching Giuliani crash and burn, slowly and steadily, has been an absolute JOY! It's like a gift from heaven and proves that eventually some people do get what they deserve!