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I meant Marc Bauer.
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oh, sorry Bobby. Yes, Marc Bouwer is fur-free, has been for years. This collection was even leather and wool-free. Where is my heart emoticon? You can see some vid of his gorgie collection here: Bouwer's "Imitation Is Life"
We sent Marc JACOBS (though he's in London) two dozen daisies today, in thanks for his fur-free collection. You're *my* hero Chi Chi. I think the earth goddess in you must have inspired Mr. Jacobs this season.

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I need a faux-fur coat in this weather I'll tell you that much!
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Beauty note:

Just this past valentines day I was with Mommy at Lucky Chengs for the opening of Salon Rouge and to my surprise...I discovered that we both use L'Oreal's True Match pressed powder! If it's good enough for Mommy and Beyonce, it's good enough for me. Sorry... couldn't find a beauty forum to post this in, but then make-up and fashion go hand-in-glove anyway.
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I'll have to try that! I've been stuck for too long on the mask effect that MAC's Studio Fix creates. Talk about total coverage. Not so great. Too flat. Really just want something to even things out and take the shine off. Thanks.
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I love Clarins tinted moisterizer for my pale face. It gives me just the right amount of natural color. I also like L'Oreal's True Match pressed powder. It works quite well on "aged" skin like mine.
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Actually Bobby I do think that you don't have 'aged' skin. I think skin is just total genetic: I have two friends who are my age but have the worst wrinkle. I do think it's genetic and also if folks smoke allot that also seems to age people too.
I HEART Clarins. I've found I can buy it on e-bay really cheap which is fab. I love the face oils, the beauty flash (Under make up)and the cleaners for dry skin. I used to use the doux peel too years ago.. must get that again!
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I went to the opening of this exhibit three years ago in London. Sorry to have missed the U.S. debut.. Viv gave a great interview to the LA Times, with her usual searing indictment of the "war" and politics. Let's all do just go back to the Stone Age:

Punk's spunky fashion priestess -- Vivienne Westwood marvels at her own career retrospective, but sees Stone Age style in her future.

By Rose Apodaca
Special to The Times

March 9, 2007

SAN FRANCISCO "” With her thumb and forefinger, Vivienne Westwood tugged at the darts at her bust, then her hips, creating torpedo-like effects on her gold-speckled black cocktail dress, made all the more exaggerated by way of her killer wasp waist.

Wilma Flintstone comes to mind, and, for the designer, that is exactly the aim, given the scrawling prints resembling cave drawings that she presented in her fall '07 collection, titled "Wake Up, Cave Girl," in Paris last week. The morning after that she hopped a plane for the opening here of the only U.S. stop for her traveling retrospective, at the De Young Museum through June 10.

"As a human race, we've made such a mess of things we should just start all over again, go back to the Stone Age," she explained during a respite between the media tour last Friday morning and the evening gala, where she turned up in the cocktail dress "” the same one she wore to close the Paris show, she said. "The thing about Stone Age people is they did not realize just how important the human race was or would be. They didn't realize they had a choice between cultivating themselves, having more social cement and caring and becoming more human. Or the other choice to become the animal that destroys."

Politics and culture have always played a part in the outspoken British designer's work, as evidenced in many of the 150 looks on exhibit here representing her 36 years in fashion.

There are the slashed and patched zip-up T-shirts from her first shop in 1971, called Let It Rock, on London's King's Road, from where, within eight years and by strategically renaming the space four more times, she and second husband Malcolm McLaren kick-started the cultural revolution known as punk. And there are the complicated knits and exacting tailored tweed suits with bustle silhouettes paired with the kinds of super-high, fetish-like boots the designer was wearing during the media tour she personally hosted.



Boundless energy

An hour into the tour, in which Westwood carefully recalled trivia on each look, a few of us who are roughly half the designer's 65 years wondered if she would ever tire of standing on the concrete of the new, below-ground costume hall in those rouge-colored platform, lace-up boots with those severe 6-inch spike heels.

"I'm very proud of the exhibition," she quietly told the crowd, holding the tiny microphone of her headset close to her mouth while simultaneously removing her white pearly framed glasses. A few new looks have been added since the show began at London's Victoria & Albert Museum three years ago. "I'm very impressed at the number of things I did do."

The woman who is hailed as the queen mother of punk rock has just about done it all. Yet it's always according to her own politics and her very own signature style. She remains fiercely independent in her business, which she runs with her partner Carlo D'Amario and her co-designer and third husband, Andreas Kronthaler, a former student she met while teaching in Vienna who is 25 years her junior.

Beyond the 30 or so flagships and the 700 other stores the company sells to globally, the team hopes to finally open a few signature stores, if not widen distribution, in the U.S., where a fervent fan base is sometimes forced to search EBay to score an orb medallion necklace or strappy boot. (The brand sells at Diavolina, Maxfield and Traffic in Los Angeles.)

Being made a dame in 2006 has only emboldened Westwood's sense of responsibility to speak her mind as a citizen living in a democracy. "It's all very useful, because people will give you a platform because of who you are. To some, it might only be, 'Oh, she's a nut case. There she goes again.' But at least people know who you are and might even listen."

That was her hope as her team handed out envelopes filled with a petition letter and fact sheet on Leonard Peltier, the Native American artist jailed for three decades now after being convicted of murdering two FBI agents. Many Native American groups, civil rights leaders, members of Congress and others believe Peltier was not given a fair trial.

"What is happening to Leonard, what is happening to some of these people falsely called terrorists could happen to anybody," Westwood said.

To that end, the grandmother points to a large metal disk she wears chained as a choker around her ivory neck. Scribbled in black over a red heart is the rallying cry "I am not a terrorist. Please don't arrest me." It's also on a $75 T-shirt in adult and infant sizes that she's created to raise funds for the human rights group Liberty.

"It's to do with the war in Iraq and this supposed war against terrorism," she said. "In England, we've had citizens in jail for four years, and they've never been told what their crime was. You've got Bush here with Guantanamo Bay, and people there who've never had a chance to prove their innocence, and everyone calls them terrorists. They are only there on some sort of suspicion and because the government's decided it's in the public interest that they should be kept in jail. Where is the fundamental rule of law embodied in habeas corpus?

"You can't have culture, democracy or civilization unless you have justice before the law. Justice is the first thing you have to fight for."



Hollywood's knocking

She will certainly have an expanded platform through her new Hollywood connections. Producer Brian Grazer came knocking a year ago, and now a screenwriter sits nearby, penciling notes on a yellow legal pad as she talks.

"I just thought this Brian Grazer was coming to pick my brains for a film on fashion," Westwood said. "Then I found out he had all along intended to make a film on me. Luckily, I liked him. I trust them when they say they want to do this film that's not just a spoof or a glam film. I'm not doing it from an ego point of view that my life is so important but as a representative of a time that is really true and part of our culture and to show the potential of human beings. That interests me."

Westwood's best-known mark, certainly, is in fashion. While some of her recurring motifs "” the sculpted corsets, the magnified silhouettes, the asymmetrical seams "” may have in time become less surprising, her influence is no less evident throughout the extremes of clothing today. Designers such as John Galliano, Alexander McQueen and even Gwen Stefani endlessly pillage Westwood's archives, including her advertising and editorial images, as their own.

Besides the plaid and strappy bondage pants that have three decades later become such a staple in mall chains such as Hot Topic, the designer pioneered the application of couture techniques in ready to wear. For her, inspiration comes in the "physical" more than any ephemeral source. This runs the gamut from the preciseness of English tailoring to the slashing of a hem or precious fabric.

"If I'm ever stuck in my work, I just start with a cutting principle. That's where all the secrets are "” cutting, tearing, taking it all apart." It's a conceit of her clothes-making that could just as easily extend to her take on public affairs. "A single idea," she pointed out, "is a hundred decisions if you take into account the decisions of a lifetime."

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Oh, dear grandma...in the end, is there ANY other designer? I am forever committed. as an addendum to the beauty note Michael, I have found that once you 've applied foundation and LOOSE powder, a few spritzes of water on the face create this really natural look...like you weren't even wearing base! I think I learned that from Bobby a long time ago in one of our Versailles room conversations...which always was about beauty tips...just like Andy Warhol and Nick Rhodes used to do.

Evian atomizer works wonders, but any other "sans-alchohol" mist works fine. There are a few for sale at the Japanese supermarket on 9th st, Sunrise, which comes in an environmentally friendly non-aerosol dispenser. For about $8, you get more and pay les than Evian at Ricky's. And to take off the day's face NOTHING beats Shu Uemura cleansing oil...NOTHING. I have tried almost every brand out there and I have found Shu Uemura to be the absolute best. ABSOLUTE.

Speaking of cleansing oil and Westwood...Japanese licensee UTOWA (who have a store on 18th street selling a few Westwood items, have developed a line of, yes, Vivienne Westwood cosmetics. From skincare to make up. Apparently it's rose scented (surprise) and is unfortunately available only in Japan. Who knew? But then the Japanese have been such great fans that they're willing to license anything. I haven't tried it yet but I assure you when I get my hands on them, I shall proudly say "yes, Westwood...head to face to toe."
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Go on with your bad self Mister X. Yes I remember our coversation about setting one's foundation with an aqua mist. I learned it from
Jerry Hall who would do her make up first and then sit in a warm tub . The steam from her bath would open the pores and set the base and foundation as she cooled down after. Always flawless too. I would love some of Viv's make up line. I'm sure it's totally gorge.
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This just in from Radar online. I smell a party theme: Histoy's Biggest Fashion Fouls

"3. Exposed Genitals: The best-dressed gentleman around medieval England exposed his naked genitals below a short-fitting tunic. If the genitals didn't hang low enough, a chap could wear padded flesh-colored falsies, called "braquettes.""
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Someone tell him... this is NOT a good look... and I hate her with short hair...

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I don't know...
if I get any bigger around the middle...
it's a viable option.
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Yeah, why'd she let it go grey?
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Why does anyone?
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you certainly wouldn't know.
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and what are you implying Goblin?

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My lips are sealed as to who has grey and who colors it.
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just saying that someone so blessed
with age defying good looks and
a full and lustrous head of hair
- like yourself - would have no idea
of the difficulties and suffering
others struggling with the aging process
must bear on a daily basis.

that's all.
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OK, I just wanted to make sure that you were not implying that I really look like Anderson Cooper underneath this mop of naturally brown hair.

Or that I use ColorGems by loreal 3.0 Demi permanant darkest natural brown with no ammonia.
And BTW Bobby,
Not that I use it myself of course, but a friend of mine uses a 9 volume activator and loves it.
He finds it a lot less damaging to his hair.
Ever use it?

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