Okay, I just joined and this may not make me very popular, but I have to get it off my chest.

*breathe*

I am NOT an "admirer" or a freakin' "tranny chaser". My preference for transsexuals happens to be my sexuality, who and what I'm attracted to, ever since my early teens when I came across it. I'm really sick of seeing guys like myself referred to by transsexuals as one of the aforementioned names.

Look, I know society treats transsexuals as oddities and lacks understanding of the decisions you made for yourself. I also understand the sick and twisted cyclical oppression that goes on in our community.

Wait a minute...did I say "OUR" community?

That's right, I said OUR community. The simple fact of the matter is that when I realized my sexuality and entered into a relationship with a transsexual, I became part of the transgender community. I, as a young white male open about who he was and is, became an oddity, a pervert in society's eyes.

And I'm not. Pisses me off to no end.

So, I refuse society's labeling of me. And of you. And because of that, I also refuse to let you, the people I support and love and am attracted to, demean me and the men who are similar to me for liking and supporting you for who and what you are.

peace.

ps - there's no name for guys like me that's even remotely semi-positive, so if you've got a good idea, let me know!

Bravo enyc!

Since the word "tranny chaser" has connotations shame and denial-- and you possess neither-- it is time for a new word.

There is a school of thought that claiming the word for your own reduces the stigmatism (such as has been done with questionable effect with "queer" and "nigger".)

Not to mention that tranny chaser is a bit unwieldy, and it is the nature of modern English to streamline... so something like trannyphile wouldn't fit the bill either.

We shall, as they say, have to put on our "thinking caps."After all, we have got some of the most accomplished wordsmiths here on these boards!

One word I heard is "transamorous". Also kind of unwieldy. I'd like to take 'trisexual' and make it ours, but I think it already has polyamorous written all over it.

hmmmm, well, i guess this subject isn't all that popular.

we will find the perfect word one of these days...one of these days.

Does the word Skirt Chaser connote Shame and denial? skirt chaser tranny chaser Boy Chaser Beer with a scotch chaser it's all good.

With any kind of "chaser" there is some kind of desperate need for more implied, jonomar. It's like one is never enough. It just breeds more pain, hurt, or, in the case of the scotch chaser, more of a hangover.

How about "trans lover?" I think that would encompass just about everyone on these boards.

yeah, translover is cool. but i'm almost thinking we need an identity, something society can take to bed with them and wake up with. across the spectrum we've got straight,lesbian, gay, bisexual, transsexual...and the partners therof, except in the case of transsexual, are all identified as such.

what do you think of transsexual? could we share that term? i'm not sure.

What about a Beer Chaser?
Oh, is it just me?
Am I the only one who's thirsty?
nevermind.

Oh shut up Bonnie!



Hey enyc,
I wouldn't get too caught up in lingo.
It's just a word.


but then again...
Now that I think of it.
"Tranny Chaser" has its origins in the sex business I think.
It's a fact that in a lot of "Tranny Bars" the girls there are, let's say, "working". Unfortunately that is one of the only ways a 24/7 T-Girl can make a living. You don't see too many in board rooms or on Wall Street.
The term Tranny Chaser is really another word for "John" in most circles (well, in the low life circles that I seem to move in any way).
I guess I can see why one would be offended.

OK...
You're right. Let's get a word.

Hmmmmmmm, I have to say that this guy is by far the "horse of a different color". The norm unfortunately for 98% of the men that share your tastes usually live shame riddled, conflicted existences always lurking in the shadows, sadly never comfortable living their lives in the light. They insist on identifying as straight until the bitter end, and the fact that they love a fat cock in their mouth or ass as long as it has a pair of tits to go with it makes them just another red blooded heterosexual male. Usually fearful of family, friends, wives and mates finding out what they do on their own time. Your willingness and honesty in sharing who you are is NOT the case in most instances. They thrive on the "taboo" of the situation, but at the same time are run on the fear of being found out. In situations where these men and trannys gather, they NEVER interact with one another. In fact about the only time they "come together as a community" is behind the veil of a screen name where they bitch and complain on EROS Guide feedback forums that they didn't get their money's worth....blah blah blah. I am NOT implying that you are one of these men. You seem quite the exception. Sadly however, the men who make up the most visible aspect of your brothers of transattracted sexuality ruin it for the few proud and honest such as yourself.

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You got that right Sweetie Pie (as usual).

My first experiences with __ __ __ __ __
(whatever it is that we are going to call Tranny Chasers)
was working in nightclubs and be-friending bouncers, security guards and body builders.
It seems a disproportionate number of "He-Men" have a definate proclivity for "She-Men".
I don't know why that is but it is.
I learned that these guys are NOT gay.
They are NOT into men.
They are not exactly straight either.
They are their own thing.
(I guess __ __ __ __ __ for lack of a better word)
I can see your frustration ecny.

BTW
I don't mean to be rude with some of my language, I just feel like we are all friends here and can let our PC hair down a little.
So if I say something like "She-Men" I'm not talking about anyone that WE know.

Well, maybe one...

crap Daddy, now he'll never come flashing 20's anymore.

why would an appellation for a person identified by their sexual preference necessarily be a word describing the preference instead of the 'preferer'? halfgay

seeing as how this sort of person with their unique orientation is such an individual instance is it really necessary that there be a name identifying such a person as an actual social type? plain old individual would work.

enyc would do.

unless that is, if it is supposed to refer in some way to instrumental sexual acts as
public personality and place capital value on being known in that way.

then i think one has to visit that zone Daddy has mentioned. which isn't to say a new word wouldn't shine up the old viscious circle with a little fresh vulgarity. but probably the word shouldn't have anything to do with being gender specific or designate a heirarchical location in a retail economy based on a girlfriend. you would need something totally transparent to criticism and being used in a derogative way.

well, I happen to take pride in being one of the most rampant sleazebag tranny chasers (m to f preference) on the planet....but, the catch is that I am a "real girl" although I tend to look like a drag queen, and like to call my self a she-male impersonator. Though I personally enjoy the derogatory associations of "tranny chaser," I have of late been rendering myself "ambiguously gay", which I think works well for those of us with particularly complicated sexualities.

Wow, you are complicated.
I love that.

I think "trannychasers" as men who are excited by the prospect of being with a guy but can't come to terms with it so play with a bloke that looks like a chick ... hear me out on this.... Whereas enyc is someone who likes TS/TVs genuinly and tis a preference/ I think there are lots of guys like that where it tis a pref not some 'perverse novelty' (i use the term perverse cos to THEM it is a tabboo and thats prob part of the appeal, I personally don't use the word as I DON"T think it's perverse, so don't jump on me).
You see I think tranny Chasers are akin to these uptight white american girls who date black men to piss off their parents and take what they believe to be a walk on the wild side. Would you agree/Disagree??? As a St8 gen-girl who tends to pref. boys with a hint of a tint I loathe it when folks just point at any blk man in town and say "heres a guy for you" cos its just objectifying folks and making it a fetish. I think thats the difference - a chaser is perhaps someone who has a 'fetish' whereas enyc is someone with a preference.
Does this make sense...?

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I think that makes a lot of sense. Fetish is supposed to be the source of some special 'force' -which really just translates in to the mental state of excitement for the devotee.