As long as it wasn't 'poisoned' with laxative.

We can't wait to see a copy!

Sex on a coffee table? I need to see the the Karma Sutra entry for that, angles seem wrong...

Satori

Thank you Satori. It is on hold while I finish editing the text. I am hoping for a March launch. I will announce the availability here when it is ready.

Bobby doll,
I'm readng Marti Domination's edit of my opening essay and she is so spot on. I will be sending it to you at the end of the day. I have been snowed in, without solar power hence the delay.
Send me your captions/texts if you want me to check those out, as you had said.

Love
Terence

Getting very close now.

Bad News: Lulu.com does not produce good quality b/w photo books. They look like xerox copies. Here is a post in the lulu forums from an unhappy poster who printed his b/w book through lulu.com

" I have just done a B&W book of photographs. Project number 1324309 - I didn't use the photo book option because there are no options for B&W, only colour and my project (a 210 page book of b&w documentary street photos around Asia) would cost me twice as much as I could possible sell it for if I went for a colour option.

I chose a b&w book option in 9x7 landscape format and on my computer screen, it looked just what I wanted. I have now received my copies and to be perfectly honest, I can photocopy better quality onto cartridge paper than I'm getting in this book and I'm embarrassed to even show it to anybody let alone ask anybody to part with money for it.

I want to know why it is not possible to get a photo quality book in black and white at a reasonable cost? There are many photographers out there doing B&W who would want to do a book, I'm a member of a camera club and several websites such as flickr and was recommending lulu until I saw this abomination appear. Now I'm recommending any serious photographer to stay as far away from Lulu as possible.

It is great for novels and written work, but bookshop quality photography books, not a hope in hell!!

Has anybody here had any similar experience with such poor printing?

I only hope some of Lulu's senior management look at these Forums - There is a gap for a good quality, b&w photo quality cost effective book option.

After years taking the photos, months preparing the book just as I wanted it, I'm devastated at the shocking quality of the final effort. If I'm lucky, I can give away a few copies FOC to my family but as for making any money back.. forget it."

Sounds awful. I am back to square one with my book project so it seems.

Hi my dear-

Haven't seen this post till your repost of it, but in defense of Lulu's product I actually ordered several photo books from them, both B&W and color, to see the quality before we started getting involved with Verbal there.

Thought the quality was very good, actually better than our offset printing of issues 2-4, so I wouldn't let this one post halt your project - you don't know what the files looked like that this person sent.

Since our project is still being laid out, I can't tell you what our experience was, but I certainly urge you to read all forum posts on this subject that you can before just abandoning Lulu. Or find a book or two of B&W photos that seems most like your project and order them from Lulu to see for yourself.

Good luck, please keep reporting what you find out here, and Keep The Faith!

Chi Chi

Chi Chi/ Thanks hon. I did exactly as you suggested. I ordered a copy of that guys photo book to see what he's complaining about. I also spent a great deal of time looking around at other self publishing sites and lulu seems to be the most feasible in terms of price. I am on pause at the moment as my father just passed this morning and I must go to Seattle for a week. I'll keep you posted on my updates when I return.

Bobby dear,
I am sorry to know about your father.
I'm still sore from mine, and then my mother at Xmas.

And like Chi says, let's look into variations on the Lulu.com product before we take flee...

Best witches to you flying, love
S'tan

quote:

I am on pause at the moment as my father just passed this morning and I must go to Seattle for a week.

Sending Beams

And it still tasted good.

Dear Ones,
Thank you for your kind beams of love. I adore each of you.

Love,
Bobby

And now for the good news. My new book " A Downtown State of Mind: NYC 1973 -1983" will be available by mid May on my Myspace page and soon on my new web site: www.bobbymillerphotographer.com

I will also be releasing my other new book
" Wigstock in Black & White 1985 -2005" by mid June. You will be able to view my galleries and purchase prints, paper backs, hardcovers and DVD's (with sound track and narration) on my site as well. It has been a long haul but I am so excited about the progress I have made. I will keep you all posted here on the launch date.

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I'm so happy for you and I hope it all comes out well!

btw Your website isn't loading as of now.

It isn't loading yet because it isn't built yet. But thanks for the well wishes.

It's Here! And on my birthday too!

I am so excited to say that my new book " A Downtown State Of Mind" is now available for purchase at:

http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/273906

Please check it out.

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Yay!

We ordered our copy today.

XXXOOO
Satori

I just got my copy, and it came out beautifully! Blurb did a very good job...
What was interesting is that Bobby put the pictures in alphabetical order, yet the conjunctions of photos facing one another came out so interestingly, I thought the arrangement was deliberate... e.g. two faces with the same expressions facing each other...

The format is smaller than the average photo book, but the paper and quality of the pictures is excellent. It's well worth the price which in this day and age isn't all that high. An artefact of the Punk/No Wave era to hold onto to, to go with that new book from Harry Abrams I just ordered as well.

http://www.hnabooks.com/product/show/31109

Wait a bit (from this date)
before you order Bobby's book because inevitably I needed to copy
edit my piece *again* and we have to pay for the corrections! Oh well.

Congratulations dearest and thanks for having me be a part of the project.

How exciting - congrats to Bobby and we look forward to reading your piece, S'tan!

Can you let us know here when the change is made to Stan's piece so we can order? Thanks, and cant wait to see it!

Bobby, congatulations on the book!! I wanted to ask you, on the site you mentioned there are 2 versions, what's the difference between the two? forgive me if I sound ignorant, or if this was answered before, somehow the site doesn't give a detailed description of the differences. I just wanted to know so I could make the right purchase...after which, I have to send it to you (of course) to sign!

XXX
julian