Oh thank heaven ive found this oasis of feminine knowledge! i only pray that one of you wise, elderly, matronly goddesses can assist me. you see i was hoping that drag would save me from a life of depravity. i find that i am incapable of keeping my "lucky strike" in its box. as soon as i merely see some possible flame and i loose my kool. i am addicted. i was hoping that by binding my american spirit, this terrible lust would be extinguished, but instead i find it a smoldering fire. indeed! last week i was out at a club(looking quite hot if i dont say so myself) dancing the night away in a smoking little number that matched my fire engine-red nails. at any rate, a gentleman tried to strike up a conversation. he walked up and stared deeply in my eyes and said the most beautiful words-- hiya sweet cheeks. and extended his hand to shake mine. this was entirely too much! my little pack transformed into a full grown camel ready to hump! it broke free of its restraints (with a fire-crackery sound) and presented itself full grown in his palm!
as much as i wish it werent this has been a common occurance every weekend, having some young turk smoking my cock! please, someone help!

Virginny my dear...As exciting as it is to have a hot handsome man approach you on the dance floor or at the local cafe, it is best advised to try to control that monster between your legs. I recall a time when I too would often be so instantly aroused at the first co-mingling with a gentleman caller that I would find my well hidden ladymeat suddenly growing to it's full emensity right before his eyes. Though this is usually a tranny chasers delight, it is often embarrassing to everyone else within eyeshot. Some will even comment with smart-alecky remarks like " Hey put that thing back in it's holster" or " Hey watch it with that thing, you almost put my eye out." So it is almost always best to try and keep mother's little helper in her proper place. Being a gal with a big package, I have found it almost impossible to hide convincingly when I wear certain outfits. That little mini-dress that hits you about pussy length is out of the question. And tight capri pants are a definate no-no. So it is best to dress a little more modest when going out. And you will be thrilled to know that it isn't what you're wearing that attracts the men dear, it's how you wear it. An off the shoulder gown with a ruffle around the hip area can be just the ticket to direct their gaze away from the suspiciously engorged mound between your legs. And the fun part is later on when you surprise them with that hot little soldier standing at full attention. Try this out for size( no pun intended) and keep us posted. Good luck.ˇ

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[This message was edited by bobby on 04-18-01 at 02:26 PM.]

Girls, may I suggest you wear fashions made popular before the 20th century to hide your male agenda? Victorian bustles, medieval nun's habits and Civil War era hoopskirts can be quite tasteful and just the thing to hide a certain bulge. And they're great icebreakers!

I feel as if I have stepped into a scene written by Claire Boothe Luce. My goodness, with all the feathers flying, nail scratching, and volleying of insults, nobody bothered to address Ginger's question about first time sex in drag and how to get the proverbial ball rolling.

Now, I have just a bit of experience in this area, and also have learned from the best of the best (my dear sister Sweetie). The best way to deal with the "first time" for sex in drag is just to do it. Jump on in! The water is warm. Even though we end up in charge of what we do in such circumstances (regardless of top or bottom issues & desires), let the chaser guide the fantasy, and enjoy the ride. If he has already acknowledged interest, then play it out, and on this you have to develop your own feminine repertoire. But the bottom line is that you are a "special" girl, and he will let you know what he wants, and how far it will go (including the wig issue- as I have already stated here in other posts- keep the wig on!)

I recall my first time, and was breathless in the whole cab ride home from the old Cafe Con Leche (when it was on 13th St, now- sigh- a deli). It is very thrilling to have some straight boy fancy you when all done up. The experience is quite intoxicating, but heed the warning from the nurse, it can also be quite habit-forming.

I am not advocating getting into car's with strangers, as that is something left to your own judgement (though I have gotten plenty of rides home and only once been actually concerned about my safety). However, if the scene sets itself up, take a deep breath, and go with it. It is worth it (even if you only do it once).

Randella, thankyou so much for your words of wisdom and encouragement. I will take it all into consideration. I suppose when I meet a man who CAN take the lead, I will excitedly follow.
But what about the voice? I find when I affect my voice I sound much like a cartoon character.

Any input is greatly appreciated ladies*

[This message was edited by GINGER on 05-09-01 at 11:48 PM.]

Ginger honey,
When a man gives you,"that look", and you like him, that's your signal to smile,dear and go up to him (they're often timid and afraid of rejection) and start a conversation-you know name, come here often?,etc. Don't make the first sexual gesture.(Only do that on a second date when you know where he wants to be touched). Too many girls make this mistake! Remember it's all fantasy and you've already got his going. Voice,wig nothing else matters-it's all fantasy! I can't stress that enough.
When he's sufficiently excited he'll make a suggestion or a gesture. You know the rest.

Whisper. I am showing my age by remembering this ad from the 70s, but it is sage advice, and still hold true today -several decades later-, especially for us special girls. To deal with the whole voice issue when with a chaser who is sniffing hard, don't affect your voice, because you just end up sounding silly. Just lower the volume, just above a whisper. It sounds so much more feminine and sexy. This means you have to get closer to his ear, which can be very enticing (your hot breath close to his ear as you whisper coquettishly) and what you do while your mouth is close to his ear can be a great starting off point (though chat a bit first before you go licking him up and down). After a while, he won't even care about the "flaws" in the illusion, as true to form, most chasers just want the ladystick.

I wouldn't worry so much about your voice in the overall gestalt of the tranny chase. Chasers are a strange breed, and they are able to suspend their disbelief long enough to get their rocks off (usually) and then they hightail it out (whether it be from the your boudoir or from the rancid bathroom of some downtown watering hole) back to the wife and kids or whatever bridge they crept out from under.

Sometimes the best thing is a housedate- where the chaser comes to over to your house. This requires minimal effort, especially if they have already seen you done up. All that is required is a wig, a 25 watt bulb or one candle, and some slinky coverup over your lingerie. Have some alcohol handy, just in case he is a bit nervous. These liasions rarely last more than an hour, and are only about sex. Again, the voice is not an issue in such situations, as the chasers see us always as 'ladies'- it is all about their willing suspension of disbelief.

Finally, the secret is revealed. I can't wait to get painted and get my whisper on!!! Randella, you are a great sage. My own mother had me running around with a voice similar to that of Stacy Q, all high pitched and false sounding. As I practice my whisper in front of the mirror, the whole illusion pieces together.
And thankyou Rose "Queen of Fantasy" Royalle. The next time I get "that look" I will put your words of wisdom into action! However, I must question your "wait until the second date" approach. Seems the 'Do as I say, not as I do' mentality is in effect here. I have been witness to your prowess with the men Rose. Hook, line and sinker within 15 minutes and that's on an off night. Keeping pace with some of you thoroughbreds is a sheer impossibility for a novice like me, but with a face of momma's paint and a seductive whisper - I'll be there in no time!!

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ginger a quick word of advise, remove the dentures before you start wispering. you will be close enough for him not to notice and you will be ready to pounce on his hoo hoo.

Well..I think Randella's suggestion is brilliant. I have always affected a whisper and it works every time (except when yelling at them to "....come back here!) And Rose's suggestions are the advice of a true pro. All to be taken to heart. As for Ginger and her cartoonish voice that she has used on many occasions..Well it hasn't hurt you in securing the attentions of many a mickey mouse or donald duck. And just remember Momma's wise words of wisdom....there is often a prince hidden in the guise of goofy. And besides a good laugh is always as good as a hot fuck, that is when the laugh is not on you dear.

That's great advice Dressy, although it's of no use to me. Realness is the cornerstone of my illusion, all of my assets are real including the teeth. However, I will pass this little tid-bit onto my mother, Holiday Special, to whom it will be of great use. Having so many gentlemen callers seems to lossen her teeth, especially the wooden ones. o

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I've had sex, I've been in drag, and I've been high.
I've had sex while high.
I've had sex that was a drag and needed to get high afterwards.

But I've yet to have sex while in drag, high or otherwise.

By the way, what is the difference between drag and "High Drag", and is my not knowing this criteria enough to warrent that I haven't ever been in it?

Thugs,
Minerva

I perceive the difference between the two types of drag to revolve around the amount of effort and time put together to create the effect and illusion.

High drag is the whole enchilada (full face, nails, outfit, shoes, etc)- what we wear when we go out and about. While low drag (in my opinion) is when I just put on a wig (no makeup at all), sheer nightie, close the curtains, and light one candle (or one 25 watt bulb)- this is for housedates.

In the name of science, I conducted some further research on this issue. I had a very hot boy over yesterday afternoon (captured from AOL, and yes, from NJ) for a little visit- the crutches didn't get in the way at all. This little episode served to validate my own theories about chasers- he didn't care what I looked like in the all too bright daylight of my apartment, even though he was ruggedly handsome (an 8 out of 10)- it was all about the illusion and his fantasy. He just wanted a servicing from a special girl (and I obliged to break up the monotony from my life as a shut-in on crutches).

Seems this forum has been asleep a bit too long. So here's an attempt to get the fire burning. It has now been nearly two months since I have been in any type of drag, nevermind "High" drag. But I did have sex the other night and I imagined that I was in drag. It was pretty good. Any comments on "Sex in Hallucinated High Drag?"

Well my darling daughter..I leave town and the very next day you have sex? What did I teach you? No sex unless Mommy's there to watch! I hope you used condoms and grease. You know how tight that little girl hole of yours is. And did the virgin bleed? I am so proud. I hope you whispered.h

I am walking again (with a bit of help still), but on my own two feet. Heels are still a bit far away, but I am ready and rearing to go...

Ginger, if you are feeling frisky- put on a festive & enticing frock and join me in some adventures, and we can make sure that you do find a man to tickle that fancy for you; thus, you will no longer be a sex-in-drag virgin.

Your mother doesn't even have to know, she is out of town, right?

Dear Randella and Ginger,
Since mother is out of town and will never know. should I send you out on the town with "mother's little helper"?

You mean pills? Oh, I have plenty of those (ups or downs?). I'll put them in my purse.

Well, I just returned from my daily constitutional (crutchwalk along the hudson), and I was reminded by the site of some boys in white suits...girls, IT'S FLEET WEEK!!

Oh well, I can't think of a better place to post this. Don't you agree with me ladies? Furthermore, in the tranny chase, the victor gets the spoils, but may I suggest that those successful share the stories with rest of us? And no better forum than this one...

Happy hunting...

i booked a waxing, plucked and tucked. packed my rohipnals and i'm off to the west side.
if you see me, don't know me!